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		<title>By: The Dr.</title>
		<link>http://thegarageblog.com/garage/canadians-launch-price-fixing-lawsuit-against-car-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-63697</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So after all these comments and experiences, shall I go and buy a car from the USA?

The Jaguar XF looks good and 25K chaper in the USA incomparison to CA.

Have someone buy it for me in the USA and they could sell it to me as used (3 months used) to avoid all those formal issues when buying new. 

Advice please..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So after all these comments and experiences, shall I go and buy a car from the USA?</p>
<p>The Jaguar XF looks good and 25K chaper in the USA incomparison to CA.</p>
<p>Have someone buy it for me in the USA and they could sell it to me as used (3 months used) to avoid all those formal issues when buying new. </p>
<p>Advice please..</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, they have been refusing sales to Canadians to keep the Canadian prices up, which is obviously illegal.  The manufacturers are almost certainly going to lose the lawsuit and get fined billions of dollars.  I&#039;m sure their lawyers knew it too.  What I don&#039;t get is, why did they do something so blatantly illegal at the first place??  Am I missing something here?  Can someone please enlighten me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, they have been refusing sales to Canadians to keep the Canadian prices up, which is obviously illegal.  The manufacturers are almost certainly going to lose the lawsuit and get fined billions of dollars.  I&#8217;m sure their lawyers knew it too.  What I don&#8217;t get is, why did they do something so blatantly illegal at the first place??  Am I missing something here?  Can someone please enlighten me?</p>
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		<title>By: sawicka barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>sawicka barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>toyota dealer from boston refuse to sell me car,he told me that toyota forbid them to sell car to canada,how i could sue toyota</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>toyota dealer from boston refuse to sell me car,he told me that toyota forbid them to sell car to canada,how i could sue toyota</p>
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		<title>By: Canada - U.S. car import conspiracy? &#124; Cars from the US</title>
		<link>http://thegarageblog.com/garage/canadians-launch-price-fixing-lawsuit-against-car-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-49044</link>
		<dc:creator>Canada - U.S. car import conspiracy? &#124; Cars from the US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Canadians launch price fixing lawsuit against car manufacturers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jean-Louis Houle</title>
		<link>http://thegarageblog.com/garage/canadians-launch-price-fixing-lawsuit-against-car-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-45272</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Louis Houle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Canadian (from Quebec Province)
Recently I wnet to vermont USA, and  wanted to buy a Mercedes Benz S550 4 matic at AUTOMASTER sealership in Burlington. No way. Even if I could give him eventually a US address and even with a driver license of Vermont I could acquire. NO. NO. NO.They said.
There the basic price without Options is $87,900.00, and here in Canda the same car is starting basic at $123,000.00. It is $35,000.00 over price.
What can I do. I do not want a used car of 2007. I want to buy new 2008 with all the options I want. Also the options in the US are at a lower price than in Canada.
I know how to get all the paper work, but the dealers dont want to sell to me as a Canadian. Tell me wrong about price fixing and NAFTA. That is ridiculous, NAFTA does not exists. I can buy a TV or a chair in the US but not a car.
Hoping the Class aciton will succeed against all the manufacturers and the Canadian government. As usual the government dont lift a finger to make everything crystal clear.
Jean-Louis Houle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Canadian (from Quebec Province)<br />
Recently I wnet to vermont USA, and  wanted to buy a Mercedes Benz S550 4 matic at AUTOMASTER sealership in Burlington. No way. Even if I could give him eventually a US address and even with a driver license of Vermont I could acquire. NO. NO. NO.They said.<br />
There the basic price without Options is $87,900.00, and here in Canda the same car is starting basic at $123,000.00. It is $35,000.00 over price.<br />
What can I do. I do not want a used car of 2007. I want to buy new 2008 with all the options I want. Also the options in the US are at a lower price than in Canada.<br />
I know how to get all the paper work, but the dealers dont want to sell to me as a Canadian. Tell me wrong about price fixing and NAFTA. That is ridiculous, NAFTA does not exists. I can buy a TV or a chair in the US but not a car.<br />
Hoping the Class aciton will succeed against all the manufacturers and the Canadian government. As usual the government dont lift a finger to make everything crystal clear.<br />
Jean-Louis Houle</p>
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		<title>By: Big G</title>
		<link>http://thegarageblog.com/garage/canadians-launch-price-fixing-lawsuit-against-car-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-17703</link>
		<dc:creator>Big G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve K, you are seriously misinformed on importing a vehicle. You pay gst whether you buy in Canada or US (mute point), you can finance through your bank (do not need to &quot;write a check&quot;), do not have to change the odometer from miles to km (as well almost all speedometers have mph and kmh).  The process to import is quite simple (3 or 4 items) not the incredible headache you indicate (trust me, there are no large headaches..and it is well worth it!!).  I have bought myself and my wife each a car from the US in the past 5 months and have saved total $18,500 which includes duty paid and shipping (did not pick up the vehicles).  My father went to a dealership in Calgary to ask why a new Buick Lucerne built in Oshawa Ont. costs $9,000 more in Canada than the US, (there is no valid exchange rate, cost of manufacturing, delivery, etc. explanation)...the dealer could only point to the manufacturer.  Keep the money in your own pocket and start refusing to pay the &quot;Canadian premium&quot; expected (not only on vehicles)!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve K, you are seriously misinformed on importing a vehicle. You pay gst whether you buy in Canada or US (mute point), you can finance through your bank (do not need to &#8220;write a check&#8221;), do not have to change the odometer from miles to km (as well almost all speedometers have mph and kmh).  The process to import is quite simple (3 or 4 items) not the incredible headache you indicate (trust me, there are no large headaches..and it is well worth it!!).  I have bought myself and my wife each a car from the US in the past 5 months and have saved total $18,500 which includes duty paid and shipping (did not pick up the vehicles).  My father went to a dealership in Calgary to ask why a new Buick Lucerne built in Oshawa Ont. costs $9,000 more in Canada than the US, (there is no valid exchange rate, cost of manufacturing, delivery, etc. explanation)&#8230;the dealer could only point to the manufacturer.  Keep the money in your own pocket and start refusing to pay the &#8220;Canadian premium&#8221; expected (not only on vehicles)!!</p>
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		<title>By: Valza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you, guys, are clearly missing the point when you&#039;re talking about the dollar volatility. The lawsuit is not about setting prices on par, it is about collusion between US and Canadian branches of respective manufacturers, which prevents users from buying in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you, guys, are clearly missing the point when you&#8217;re talking about the dollar volatility. The lawsuit is not about setting prices on par, it is about collusion between US and Canadian branches of respective manufacturers, which prevents users from buying in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford warranty tranfer to Canada - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford warranty tranfer to Canada - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New or used? Talk to a dealer in your area that you&#039;d want doing warranty work (and possibly get something in writing to back up what they say) I have heard bits on the news about Canadian dealers not honoring warranty for a new vehicle purchased and imported from the US. Apparently, there is a class-action lawsuit in the works against the Canadian Automotive Dealers Association over this whole warranty mess and high purchase costs.  Here&#039;s a little reading: Canadians launch price fixing lawsuit against car manufacturers &#8212; The Garage [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New or used? Talk to a dealer in your area that you&#8217;d want doing warranty work (and possibly get something in writing to back up what they say) I have heard bits on the news about Canadian dealers not honoring warranty for a new vehicle purchased and imported from the US. Apparently, there is a class-action lawsuit in the works against the Canadian Automotive Dealers Association over this whole warranty mess and high purchase costs.  Here&#8217;s a little reading: Canadians launch price fixing lawsuit against car manufacturers &#8212; The Garage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Grant</title>
		<link>http://thegarageblog.com/garage/canadians-launch-price-fixing-lawsuit-against-car-manufacturers/comment-page-1/#comment-17022</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Steve. As I pointed out in a previous post: http://thegarageblog.com/garage/cross-border-shopping-is-it-worth-it-part-deux/

Cross border shopping may not be right for every consumer, or even for every vehicle. In some cases though, it can be very worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Steve. As I pointed out in a previous post: <a href="http://thegarageblog.com/garage/cross-border-shopping-is-it-worth-it-part-deux/" rel="nofollow">http://thegarageblog.com/garage/cross-border-shopping-is-it-worth-it-part-deux/</a></p>
<p>Cross border shopping may not be right for every consumer, or even for every vehicle. In some cases though, it can be very worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and, let&#039;s not forget.... 
We are all saying (me included) that retailers should lower their prices to match our southern neighbors. 
Our dollar is high, but what if it only last another 6 months, do you or can you even imagine all the imp0lications in changing everything? I think that most retailers, or manufacturers are simply waiting to see if the market will hold, and if the dollar will survive. Prices can&#039;t just be changed because we&#039;re complaining! Most retailers and any companies, have products bought at older dollar values, imagine the money they would lose? 
Not being the devil&#039;s advocate here, just being realistic folks,  our dollar is strong, but for how long? 
Let&#039;s wait and see if the market settles, and then cry for someone&#039;s head, but not just because it&#039;s been about 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and, let&#8217;s not forget&#8230;.<br />
We are all saying (me included) that retailers should lower their prices to match our southern neighbors.<br />
Our dollar is high, but what if it only last another 6 months, do you or can you even imagine all the imp0lications in changing everything? I think that most retailers, or manufacturers are simply waiting to see if the market will hold, and if the dollar will survive. Prices can&#8217;t just be changed because we&#8217;re complaining! Most retailers and any companies, have products bought at older dollar values, imagine the money they would lose?<br />
Not being the devil&#8217;s advocate here, just being realistic folks,  our dollar is strong, but for how long?<br />
Let&#8217;s wait and see if the market settles, and then cry for someone&#8217;s head, but not just because it&#8217;s been about 6 months.</p>
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